Peako VS Autoart VS 1:1 McLaren Mp4-12C

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Peako VS Autoart VS 1:1 McLaren Mp4-12C

Post by Hanako » Mon Oct 06, 2014 12:50 am

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MP4-12C

The McLaren MP4-12C, later known simply as the McLaren 12C is a supercar designed and manufactured by McLaren Automotive. It is the first production car wholly designed and built by McLaren since the McLaren F1, which ended production in 1998. The car's final design was unveiled in September 2009, and was launched in mid-2011.

The MP4-12C features a carbon fibre composite chassis, and is powered by a mid-mounted McLaren M838T 3.8-litre V8, twin-turbo engine developing approximately 592 hp (441 kW; 600 PS) and around 443 lb·ft (601 N·m) of torque. The car makes use of Formula 1-sourced technologies such as "brake steer", where the inside rear wheel is braked during fast cornering to reduce understeer. Power is transmitted to the wheels through a seven-speed seamless shift dual-clutch gearbox.

A convertible version of the car called the MP4-12C Spider, renamed the 12C Spider in 2012, is also available. In February 2014, McLaren announced the related 650S, with revised bodywork, upgraded engine and other technical improvements. In April 2014, McLaren announced the end of production of the 12C.

Specifications
Design:
In 2008, McLaren hired Frank Stephenson as design director for their reborn production car project. As with the McLaren F1, carbon fibre is used extensively in the vehicle to minimise weight. The MP4-12C weighs 1,301 kg (2,868 lb) dry.

The chassis is based around a F1 style one-piece carbon fibre tub, called the Carbon MonoCell, weighing only 80 kg (176 lb). The MonoCell is made in a single pressing by using a set of patented processes, using Bi-Axial and Tri-Axial carbon fibre multiaxial fabrics produced by Formax UK Ltd. with the MonoCell manufactured by Carbo Tech in Salzburg, Austria. This has reduced the time required to produce a MonoCell from 3,000 hours for the F1 and 500 hours for the Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren, to 4 hours for the MP4-12C.

The car has a conventional two side-by-side seating arrangement, unlike its predecessor the McLaren F1 which featured an irregular three seat formation (front centre, two behind either side). To make up for this however, the car's central console is narrower than in other cars, seating the driver closer to the centre. Interior trim and materials can be specified in asymmetric configuration – known as "Driver Zone".

Engine:
The car is powered by the M838T 3.8 litre twin-turbo V8 engine, designed and developed by McLaren, Ilmor and Ricardo.[10] The design of the engine was based on a racing engine which was designed and developed by Tom Walkinshaw Racing for the IRL Indy Car Championship but never raced. However, other than the 93 mm bore, little of that engine remains in the M838T. It produces 592 bhp (441 kW; 600 PS) and 443 lb·ft (601 N·m) of torque. It has a redline of 8,500 rpm, with 80% of torque available at just 2,000 rpm. When first announced, McLaren claimed that it would have a higher horsepower to carbon dioxide emission ratio than any internal-combustion engine available at the time.

McLaren announced a small number of improvements to become available in October 2012, with the option to be retrofitted to existing cars free of charge. The engine now produces 616 bhp (459 kW; 625 PS) and no change to the CO
2 emissions which remain at 279 g/km. This power output has also become standard on the 2013 model.

The M838T engine is manufactured for McLaren at the Ricardo Shoreham Technical Centre in West Sussex.

Transmission
The engine is connected to a seven-speed automatic dual-clutch gearbox made by Graziano Oerlikon. Dubbed the "Seamless Shift Gearbox" or SSG, the gearbox features a system dubbed "Pre-Cog" that allows the driver to preselect the next gear by lightly tapping the paddle.

Performance
McLaren have stated the 12C can accelerate from 0 to 100 km/h (62 mph) in 3.1 seconds and 0 to 200 km/h (124 mph) in 9.0 seconds. During independent testing of a stock 2012 12C, DragTimes recorded a 0 to 100 km/h (62 mph) time of 2.7 seconds and a quarter mile time of 10.2 seconds at 218.15 km/h (136 mph), the 3rd fastest verified time for a stock production car at the time. The car has a claimed top speed of 207 mph (333 km/h) and was tested at 213.2 mph (343 km/h) by Sport Auto. It can brake from 200 km/h (124 mph) to a complete stop in under 5 seconds. Braking from 100 km/h (62 mph) to zero can be done in under 30 metres (98 ft), around seven car lengths.
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Brand: Peako Models
Model: McLaren Mp4-12C
Limited Edition: Yes
Availability: Super Rare*
Model Type: Resin (No Opening)
Color: Yellow
Market Price: -

Brand: Autoart Signature
Model: McLaren Mp4-12C
Limited Edition: Yes.
Availability: Common
Model Type: Die-Cast (Opening Components)
Color: Metallic Silver
Market Price: $156.00 USD

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Headlights
Left: Autoart | Right: Peako
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"Points to Peako for the white LED part. As you can see the 1:1, There is a break between the lower light and the higher. Autoart made a full light to it as you can see on the bottom image. Points to Autoart for getting the right position for the LED."
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Wheels
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"Obviously Peako has the more beautiful wheels finish. It is resin :okay: "
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Height/Stance

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"As you can see, Peako has the right stance for the 12C"
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Front Bonnet: McLaren Logo

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"As you can see, Autoart failed to position the 'McLaren' logo correctly. They positioned it too high while Peako successfully positioned at the right position. Points to Peako for that"
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Rear indicator lamps
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"Peako got the right shape for the rear indicator lamps, Also for the tail lights, Peako has the right size, But the one on mine has a flaw, on the left side(top) of the tail lamp, peako did not position it correctly. Autoart has oversized tail lamps"
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Rear/Exhaust

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"Peako Models has the right rear height, While autoart's is too short, Big points to Peako for it, Peako has a nicer McLaren decal on the rear, As you can see on the 1:1, the spoiler lamp should be in black, Autoart made it transparent while Peako captured that detail. For the rear diffuser lamps, Autoart made it too 'long' while Peako captured the right size/length. However for my Peako, left exhaust did not position correctly. But not a big issue since its a hand-made model, There are bound to be some flaws"
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Rear Diffuser

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"Points to Peako Models for getting the right size, Points to Autoart for see-through detail, Points to Peako Models for Diffuser lower lamp in black, Autoart failed to replicate this one again, Transparent :shame: "
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Engine Cover/Engine

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"Points to Peako for replicating the perfect engine cover on the 12C, While Autoart is getting the wrong pattern again, If you noticed, Peako models also positioned the 'McLaren' logo correctly on the engine while Autoart's too high again"
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Spoiler

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"Well.. You'll probably buy Autoart because of opening components, While here's a cool spoiler action you guys would already know."
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Side Blade

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"Peako Models replicated the side blades better, Autoart's look cheap and plastic"
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Interior

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"Peako Model has a nicer seat, Look at that detail! While Autoart's looks cheap and plastic.. Autoart's seat belt looks better to me"

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"Look at peako's stitching, So beautifully done"

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"Also peako has a nicer looking steering wheel & dashboard"

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Re: Peako VS Autoart VS 1:1 McLaren Mp4-12C

Post by [KRAFTIG] » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:44 am

The biggest miss on this model for AUTOart is the rear stance. HUGE miss In my opinion on such an important car for me at least :evil:

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Re: Peako VS Autoart VS 1:1 McLaren Mp4-12C

Post by StratosWRC » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:51 am

Never cared for the mp4dash12c. Very uninspiring car. Oh and the middle side blade on the Autoart is actually a thin foil or something cause they couldn't use diecast to make that part thin.

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Re: Peako VS Autoart VS 1:1 McLaren Mp4-12C

Post by Mac47 » Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:37 am

Looks to me like Peako ate AA's lunch for a change, or at least would have if the AA weren't 1/3rd the price.

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Re: Peako VS Autoart VS 1:1 McLaren Mp4-12C

Post by StratosWRC » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:19 pm

Excellent dissection. For me the argument stops at resin. The Peako loses cause nothing opens.

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Re: Peako VS Autoart VS 1:1 McLaren Mp4-12C

Post by the1 » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:36 pm

Thank you for such a thorough comparison. The AUTOART is such a hit and miss. The amount of inaccuracies is staggering. The Peako on the other hand is so sweet, but the lack of opening parts is such a letdown for me too. Difficult choice.

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Re: Peako VS Autoart VS 1:1 McLaren Mp4-12C

Post by the1 » Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:14 am

I was of course referring to all the observations made in this comparison... which I'd say are pretty well documented (considering the pictures of the real car) as well. This doesn't mean the Autoart is not a wonderful piece or that it doesn't have its upsides as well.

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Re: Peako VS Autoart VS 1:1 McLaren Mp4-12C

Post by Nicadraus » Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:45 am

I agree with Lucky13, the review is very bias. Both models have inaccuracies but it can't be said that the Peako is better made. Definitely not.
Charice wrote:However for my Peako, left exhaust did not position correctly. But not a big issue since its a hand-made model, There are bound to be some flaws
The Peako had a flaws but "not a big issue" for you which makes you sound more bias. Both models are hand made and AUTOart has more details, parts and craftsmanship to it than the resin counterpart. So the AA model is better built.

It's funny how many resin collectors belittle diecast metal models just because their plastic models costs more. But the truth is, majority of resin models are very inaccurate and craftsmanship is very poor (except for GT Spirit and BBR, of which I personally like). MR is the biggest joke of them all. Almost all their models are inaccurate in terms of stance, proportion and detail.

I can still remember when AUTOart released the Reventon and put the MR Reventon into shame big time. Hahaha!
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Re: Peako VS Autoart VS 1:1 McLaren Mp4-12C

Post by the1 » Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:56 am

Indeed, resin models are often overrated in therms of fit and finish. But the biggest drawback for me remains the lack of opening parts. Maybe I'm old school, but I love the complexity of a well tailored 1:18 model with opening mechanisms and separate parts.

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Re: Peako VS Autoart VS 1:1 McLaren Mp4-12C

Post by Nicadraus » Tue Oct 07, 2014 5:52 am

the1 wrote:Indeed, resin models are often overrated in therms of fit and finish. But the biggest drawback for me remains the lack of opening parts. Maybe I'm old school, but I love the complexity of a well tailored 1:18 model with opening mechanisms and separate parts.
Exactly. You are not being old school but like me, you're also after the money's worth.

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Re: Peako VS Autoart VS 1:1 McLaren Mp4-12C

Post by the1 » Tue Oct 07, 2014 5:59 am

In the end, BEAUTY is in the eye of the beholder! The resin versus die-cast debate is similar to the BMW versus Mercedes or Pepsi versus Coca-Cola wars... Each side will always have its fair share of fans and detractors.

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Re: Peako VS Autoart VS 1:1 McLaren Mp4-12C

Post by Nicadraus » Tue Oct 07, 2014 6:11 am

But Coke is so much better in taste and Pepsi have a lot of hypocrites in their company. :lol:

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Re: Peako VS Autoart VS 1:1 McLaren Mp4-12C

Post by [KRAFTIG] » Tue Oct 07, 2014 7:47 am

This is my take on resin, a PLACEHOLDER until a diecast version of a MUST HAVE is released ;)

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Re: Peako VS Autoart VS 1:1 McLaren Mp4-12C

Post by [KRAFTIG] » Tue Oct 07, 2014 7:48 am

Nicadraus wrote:But Coke is so much better in taste and Pepsi have a lot of hypocrites in their company. :lol:
BUT IT IS!!! :lol:

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